tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post2588101124235152361..comments2024-01-21T11:22:28.211-08:00Comments on The Ants Of God Are Queer Fish: Illustration for Eurema's Dam!Daniel Otto Jack Petersenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07278782665152906956noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-58468066575634807852012-06-02T13:50:52.992-07:002012-06-02T13:50:52.992-07:00Indeed. I feel a little over-privileged. (Heck, ...Indeed. I feel a little over-privileged. (Heck, reading Lafferty combined with just one other good is enough to convince me to hang on in faith in a fallen world.)Daniel Otto Jack Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07278782665152906956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-68525888024834307212012-06-02T12:01:43.697-07:002012-06-02T12:01:43.697-07:00You live in a land with plentiful beer, you have f...You live in a land with plentiful beer, you have five children (the perfect number--four more would be too many, for less would be too few), and you read Lafferty. <br /> <br />Yes, the evidence would indicate that you are indeed blessed.Kevin Cheekhttp://sites.google.com/site/kevincheektechwritingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-37765765683765557842012-06-02T02:43:28.253-07:002012-06-02T02:43:28.253-07:00Well, let's see, over the past few evenings (B...Well, let's see, over the past few evenings (BBQs with friends), I've had amber ale, pale ale, and 'red kite ale'. I didn't quite catch whether they were particularly cloudy or yeasty. They were good, though! There is a wide variety of independent, good stuff here, readily available and reasonably priced. I feel blessed.Daniel Otto Jack Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07278782665152906956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-80671922261542367082012-06-01T13:47:03.995-07:002012-06-01T13:47:03.995-07:00So have I converted you to rich, cloudy, yeasty al...So have I converted you to rich, cloudy, yeasty ale? I imagine in Scotland, you should have a wide and wonderful variety available. Almost as wide as the variety of Lafferty's stories, though I doubt anywhere near as wonderful (even though the ale be very good indeed).Kevin Cheekhttp://sites.google.com/site/kevincheektechwriting/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-77831554871531998732012-05-02T14:13:29.857-07:002012-05-02T14:13:29.857-07:00yeasty for cosmogony and bubbly for salty characte...yeasty for cosmogony and bubbly for salty characters - I like it!Daniel Otto Jack Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07278782665152906956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-19789823353443628632012-05-02T12:20:09.067-07:002012-05-02T12:20:09.067-07:00Well, I favor a rich, yeasty, cloudy ale. I think ...Well, I favor a rich, yeasty, cloudy ale. I think the yeasty flavor goes particularly well with Lafferty's cosmogeny, especially stories like "Hole on the Corner" and "The River's of Damascus." Something about the creative leavening in common between the brew and his writing. I also think the sharp bubbly texture on the tongue compliments the saltiness of some of his characters like Sour John and Garamask.<br /><br />Just pouring beer of the top of my head (figuratively speaking, though there are some shampoos I've seen at the store...)Kevin Cheekhttp://sites.google.com/site/kevincheektechwriting/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-68416348393719723872012-04-22T02:02:40.084-07:002012-04-22T02:02:40.084-07:00ha ha, definitely! Unfortunately, I'm no beer...ha ha, definitely! Unfortunately, I'm no beer connoisseur, even though I have a number of friends who are and who ply me with various recommendations (I just always drink it up and say 'ooh, yeah, yeah, really nice'). We need a guest blogger knowledgeable in both Laff and brew to guide us! <br /><br />Maybe the beginnings of a division would be a different sort of beer/ale/lager/whatever each for the different major types of his stories: Oklahoma/southwestern, historical, planetary romance, future, time travel, etc.Daniel Otto Jack Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07278782665152906956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-8227964025711174182012-04-21T19:42:24.808-07:002012-04-21T19:42:24.808-07:00Excellent. And another critical Lafferty question....Excellent. And another critical Lafferty question. Indeed, perhaps THE critical Lafferty question. The best beer to drink while reading Lafferty? I'm assuming it should be something stout, but would there be particular pairings for the short stories, say, as opposed to some of the longer works?<br /><br />I mean, because these things are important . . .Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-83807809740430389222012-04-20T03:32:53.289-07:002012-04-20T03:32:53.289-07:00Ok, I remembered a few more stories that I *for su...Ok, I remembered a few more stories that I *for sure* read to them (there are others in the maybe category, so I won't list 'em lest memory mislead us):<br /><br />'Old Foot Forgot' - they actually loved thinking through the anti-pantheistic philosophy of this one.<br /><br />'Once on Aranea' - the planet stories generally seem to work well- and again, this one's pretty grotesque at a certain point.<br /><br />'The Man with the Speckled Eyes' - the first part was probably difficult for them to follow but the ending may have been worth it.<br /><br />'Golden Trabant' - I remember them being pleasantly creeped out by the main character's hand at the end.<br /><br />'Pig in a Pokey' - another planet story, with an alien.<br /><br />'The Configuration of the North Shore' - the first dream segment where the booted turtle talks was a fave moment of theirs and I think kind of signaled and summed up for them what Lafferty could 'do'.Daniel Otto Jack Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07278782665152906956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-87357033239650044892012-04-20T02:32:51.326-07:002012-04-20T02:32:51.326-07:00correction: *They're* kind of violent...correction: *They're* kind of violent...Daniel Otto Jack Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07278782665152906956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-30654380463863169822012-04-20T02:29:24.420-07:002012-04-20T02:29:24.420-07:00ha ha, 'so fun to read aloud and they weren...ha ha, 'so fun to read aloud and they weren't old enough to complain'! That's exactly how I've gotten away with reading tons of stuff to our brood. I too had read Narnia and was cracking Hobbit and LOTR around a similar age (from about 3, 5, & 6 to about 7, 9, 10 - took a LONG time - years! - to get through LOTR, and they understood probably 20%! But they expressed fascination with it).<br /><br />So, Lafferty I believe I read to them post-LOTR when they were a bit older, ranging from 7 or 8 to 12 or so. It was just a lark and I was shocked how amazing some of his stuff leapt lyrically off the page when read aloud. (I've heard at least one other reader express this online about reading to his son, maybe age 10 or so.) Anyway, they really surprised me by being fairly into it, sometimes very into it. My daughter, now 16, has gone on to read 3 or 4 volumes of his short fiction and 3 or 4 novels. She really enjoys him. The younger ones (boys) I think will get interested a bit later - they need to work up from their Bradbury, Gaiman (his children's books and stories), and the like into Lafferty's more mature and demanding wildness. Their big sister's a bit of reading prodigy so it's no surprise she's up for it. (Actually it never ceases to surprise and delight me.) <br /><br />Now here's the thing: I don't remember too many of the titles I read to them. I do recall reading them 'Snuffles', 'Frog On the Mountain', and a story called 'Jack Bang's Eyes' from one of the Drumm Booklets. There were some others, but I can't recall. If you know any of the stories I just mentioned you'll probably think - THOSE?! There kind of violent and REALLY odd and out there. I know, I'm surprised at myself now, looking back. But I think I was going on a hunch about those stories' mythological impact, their sense of rollicking adventure and action, etc. And, as it turns out, the kids really responded to that. I'll never forget their groans and protests to the cliff-hanger ending of 'Frog on the Mountain', ha! I think they were indeed a bit shocked and mildly horrified by some of the grotesquery, but frankly, I think that hooked 'em in more! (Plus, it's not like they hadn't encountered some dark and violent passages in LOTR - or in the Bible readings we'd done since they were wee!)<br /><br />Also, if you can credit it, I read them the whole novel Space Chantey. And again, they enjoyed it, though most of it went right over their heads. To be honest, it was all just a thing they did with their Dad since before they could probably remember, a ritual, and we might have been able to read just about anything together - but their dad's obsession with certain literature guaranteed the shape it took. I read them lots of stuff that probably helped give a context for Laff: junior readers (but full) versions of Beowulf, the Odyssey, the Fairy Queen - yeesh, looking back I simply cannot conceive how we got through all we did! I haven't even listed it all - we've also read aloud Le Guin's Earthsea novels, lots of one-off short stories by various authors, some Roald Dahl classics, etc. (They have two younger syblings now, ages 2 and 6, and I'm still on Narnia with the older one - my pace has slowed!)Daniel Otto Jack Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07278782665152906956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5904298510069073946.post-38157579634610341622012-04-19T20:18:22.209-07:002012-04-19T20:18:22.209-07:00Right, so you mentioned somewhere down there in th...Right, so you mentioned somewhere down there in the comments on another post (and I think you've mentioned elsewhere), that you're reading Lafferty to your kids or have in the past or something. Couple questions. a) How old are your kids? 2) What else do you read them?<br /><br />My twins are 5, and their sister is close enough in age that she thinks she's a triplet. We've worked through all the Narnia books and have just cracked the cover on the Hobbit. Other than that though, I'm sort of casting about. I read the boys BALLAD OF THE WHITE HORSE just because it's so fun to read aloud and they weren't old enough to complain. But Lafferty?Stevenoreply@blogger.com